Glen Kyne joins Duncan Greive to recap the big takeaways from a new interview with TVNZ CEO Jodie O’Donnell. TVNZ is back in profit and looking at rugby and the Olympics, with an intriguing pay-per-view model on the horizon. Duncan Greive and Glen Kyne talk through what it means on this week’s episode of The Fold. Also: the implications of a widening lead for Stuff in Nielsen’s digital news rankings, and what the structural separation of WBD internationally means for Three and the rest of the local business. Follow The Fold on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.